“You can imagine that until recently people were importing furniture from Dubai, but I think that one is also changing; leather was being imported; now we are making it here in Kawumu from your cows, mobility; we have been using Japanese cars for all these years. And in the past we used to tell them to come and assemble their cars from here, but they were not interested. Recently, some of them wanted to assemble vehicles from here I said no; I no longer allow anybody to assemble vehicles here; we shall make them here ourselves.”