"I thank the religious people like Bishop Joshua Lwere, for aligning religion with science because this is quite a destruction by those who believe in miracles instead of using what is known. Miracles happen, even me I have seen some miracles, I don't know where they come from, but I don't concentrate on them, I concentrate on what I can do. If they happen, then that's good, that is like a bonus added to whatever I'm struggling with."